Ya know. Here we are 3 generations past Stonewall, 100 or so years after the earliest organized gay validation movements and a fairly large contigent of gay men still operaring under the "pop" gay culture dictums. OK, I like men. I appreciate what attracts me about them. I just kinda wish that gay men didn't hafta buy into what the gay culture says we should buy into. OK, lads, I'm off the soapbox. Thanks for bearing with me.